ACC Football Daily Links — Is Virginia Leaving the ACC for the Big Ten?

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Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Is Virginia the Next Big Ten Target? (Off Tackle Empire)

There’s a ton of chatter on the Internet these days about expansion, and in the last couple days, a lot of noise has picked up about the Big Ten and Virginia. After going to several different places on the Interwebs, it looks like Virginia is set to become team 15 in the Big Ten, maybe as early as Monday morning, with either North Carolina or Georgia Tech team 16…

Countdown to Signing Day: Clemson, FSU Recruiting Dominance Delivering Results (Orange and White)

21 wins each. Two top-10 finishes. Both ACC titles. That’s the count for Atlantic Division rivals Clemson and Florida State over the last two seasons, a demonstration of power first shown in the recruiting realm. Just four ACC teams had top-15 classes in the last five years, as rated by Scout and Rivals…

University of Miami’s Football Recruiting Class Small But Talented (Palm Beach Post)

If there is a theme to the University of Miami’s 2013 recruiting class, it might be this: quality over quantity. With the Hurricanes expected to bring in only 15 to 18 players on national signing day, this year’s class likely will be one of the smallest in recent memory. But in this case, size may not matter. According to Rivals, the dozen players orally committed to UM entering last weekend have an average star rating of 3.42 (on a scale of 1 to 5)…

Did Virginia Tech Improve With Offensive Coaching Changes? (Rant Sports)

Virginia Tech head coach Frank Beamer has seemingly finished his sweeping reforms to the offensive coaching staff. Beamer has, perhaps, made more coaching changes during this offseason than he has during any other year during his career with the Hokies. It started with the firing of quarterbacks coach and offensive play caller Mike O’Cain…

Five-Star UVa RB Commit Mizzell Arrested in Charlottesville (Daily Progress)

With National Signing Day rapidly approaching, the University of Virginia football program has received some unsettling news. Taquan Mizzell, a highly touted UVa recruit, was arrested early Sunday morning in the 100 block of 14th Street in Charlottesville and is facing one charge of underage possession of alcohol. The incident, which took place around 2:30 a.m., came during Mizzell’s official visit to Virginia…

2013 Senior Bowl: Fluker, Glennon Highlight Weigh-In Surprises (CBS Sports)

The naked truth that comes quite literally at the Senior Bowl exposed some players as undersized while others proved to be as rock solid as advertised. Over 100 players weighed in before taking to the practice fields on Monday. The biggest surprise — no pun intended — appeared to be Alabama tackle D.J. Fluker, listed at 6-foot-6 and 335 pounds at Alabama but weighing in at 355 pounds and standing at 6-foot-4 and 7/8 inches…

Bracy Set to Debut for FSU Track (Tallahassee Democrat)

Because of a hamstring injury he suffered during passing drills over the summer, Florida State freshman Marvin Bracy was hobbled for the beginning of the 2012 football season and eventually redshirted.But the two-sport athlete says he is healthy now. And there is absolutely no chance he’ll be redshirting for the FSU track team…

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10 thoughts on “ACC Football Daily Links — Is Virginia Leaving the ACC for the Big Ten?

  1. These rumors are always started by fans of either the Big Ten or the Big Twelve.

    Quite frankly, I can’t imagine UVA President Teresa Sullivan agreeing to sign a non-disclosure agreement with the Big Ten – a Big Ten requirement, promising to inform only a handful of school officials of the discussions, after she was ousted, albeit temporarily, from office last summer by a small group of regents scheming behind her back.

    On another note, I think it’s time to remove ACC Commisioner John Swofford. Other than easily picking off schools from a defective conference (Big East), he’s been behind the eight ball with respect to the football/public relations, conference realignment, contract negotiations and monetizing the overall ACC product.

    Final point, Swofford should be trying to persuade Penn State to become the ACC’s 15th member. The school is a perfect academic and geographic fit. A Penn State acceptance would most likely facilitate Notre Dame’s entry into the ACC as the 16th member.

    • I’ll agree on some points, disagree on others.

      - The only people talking about these rumors are your typical trolls from the Big 12. The collection of them talk realignment on Twitter virtually every day, and rarely does anything come of it (especially to the benefit of the Big 12, which hasn’t added a school since WVU).

      - Agreeing with your point on Sullivan. Doesn’t make much sense.

      - Swofford should resign, but not necessarily for the reasons you listed. He never really had much of an opportunity to pick off non-Big East schools, so I believe that point’s moot. I also believe he’s been at the forefront of the realignment game (none of the power conferences has added more schools than he has, and Maryland has been the only defector to this point). That said, his Carolina roots have continued the thought process that the ACC plays favorites, and I’d also agree that he’s failed in terms of marketing a football product and negotiating a television deal. That said, he has little effect on how well (read: poorly) the football product’s performed on the field. Still, it is time for a change.

      - The ACC has little shot at Penn State, though with the Big Ten’s TV deal (and Grant or Rights) set to expire, there is an opening. The school’s unhappy with how the Big Ten’s dealt with its post-Sandusky issues, and may be looking to renew rivalries with its old foes from the East Coast independent days. I doubt PSU coming aboard helps bring Notre Dame all-in for football. But who knows…

      • 1) ???? you have no idea what you are talking about.
        2) the B1G’s GOR lasts until at least 2027. So I guess you think 15 years is “soon”? Maybe if you are an archaeologist.
        3) PSU isn’t like the ACC at all. PSU is a large, flagship, research instituition – just like the vast majority of B1G schools. The ACC is a sloopy conglomeration of private religious schools, private secular schools, flagship schools, and urban commuter schools. It has no common identity other than possessing the delusional thinking that they better than everyone else in basketbal (& psu stinks at bball). That thinking alone won’t keep a conference together.

        • 1) Capitalization, complete sentences and proper punctuation are fun!

          2) I would love to know why I don’t know what I’m talking about. All I saw was blathering after the string of unnecessary question marks.

          3) What does being an archaeologist have to do with the Big Ten’s Grant of Rights? The rights expire when the current deal expires, which is 2016. Three years is “soon” in the case of long-term television contracts, and for the sake of our argument here.

          4) Never said that Penn State was anything like the ACC at all (obviously reading isn’t your forte). However, you’d be right that PSU has more in common with B1G schools than they do with ACC schools. “Sloopy” isn’t a word, so I’ll assume you meant the ACC was a “sloppy” conglomeration of schools, in which case you’d be sorely mistaken. The conference was founded with a clear path running from Maryland to South Carolina. Georgia Tech and Florida State were added to extend that line. Virginia Tech and Miami are part of states the conference already inhabited, while Boston College was, admittedly, an outlier (though in a major media market). Syracuse and Pittsburgh were moves to increase the league’s footprint into Pennsylvania and New York. The ensuing moves to add Notre Dame (the country’s most marketable college sports brand) and Louisville (growing school and market), were very forward-looking.

          Just six of the conference’s soon-to-be 14 schools are private, and only two of those are religiously affiliated (BC and ND are affiliated with the Catholic church). The rest are all public schools that are highly regarded in various fields, and none of these are “urban commuter schools” (unless you’re referring to Pitt?). They all share common bonds from a commitment to academic excellence (obviously there are outliers here — you can say the same about the Big Ten and Pac-12, as well), to geography, a history of athletic competition and well-established success in all sponsored sports (including both football and basketball).

          Penn State’s similarities are mostly confined to geography and a history of competition against Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College and Miami. Doesn’t mean they ever come to the ACC. In fact, I highly doubt they ever leave the Big Ten. That said, the only conceivable opportunity could lie in the school’s issues with how their current conference dealt with them post-NCAA sanctions. Again, it’s likely (at least 95-percent likely) that it won’t happen, but this is the only circumstance that COULD present an opportunity for it to happen.

          Thanks for playing!

  2. A GOR is a paper tiger. It’s nothing more than an agreement by one party to transfer control of its rights in something to another party. As applied by B1G, Twelve & PAC12, the primary purpose of a GOR agreement is to punish any member seeking to exit the conference. It has no other substantive function. The SEC doesn’t use it, and the ACC employs an exit fee. Sorry but substance rules over form.

    Obviously a GOR can be broken. The only issue concerns the reasonableness of the penalty. I don’t think the terms of the GOR are reasonable. And B1G, Twelve & PAC12 don’t want any of its members or other conferences testing the validity of their GOR in the courts.This is simply a case of ignorance being bliss.

    As I stated above, I believe Penn State can be picked, but Swofford doesn’t have the courage, confidence and sense of outrage to do it. Over the last several months, B1G has shown absolutely no respect for the history or integrity of the ACC. Through the media, B1G has all but announced its intentions to poach UVA, UNC, GTech and even Boston College. If Swofford had balls, he’d push back and go after Penn State. PAC12 was public in its courtship of Texas and Oklahoma. It’s well known that Twelve would love to poach FSU and Clemson. It’s time for the ACC to go out and actively pursue at least two big name school football schools from a conference not named Big East.

    • I agree completely. Back when Maryland first left, I was screaming from the rooftops (this post, actually: http://atlanticcoastconvos.com/2012/11/19/conference-realignment-acc-should-think-big-talk-to-notre-dame-northwestern-penn-state-vanderbilt-expansion-b1g-maryland-rutgers/) that the conference had to think bigger, instead of just feeding off the Big East. I acknowledged then, just like now, that it’s a longshot to get any targets from the other power conferences. But outwardly going for it, and announcing you’ll try is half the battle.

      • PSU would never leave the B1G for the ACC. B1G is stable, it’s rich, and it’s only going to get richer as the BTN expands. But the money they receive on the academic research side through the CIC dwarfs anything they could get from the ACC.

        Academically, the ACC doesn’t come close to what the B1G can offer in terms of collaborative research (CIC). Athletically, the ACC can’t match the B1G in terms of TV network dollars. When the next round of TV contracts are negotiated, Delany will have the conference in a position of negotiating power that only the SEC could probably come close to matching, and when numbers like $40 million/yr per school are being thrown around, the ACC can’t compete with that.

        You’re right about a percentage of the fanbase being angry at the conference in the wake of the Sandusky scandal, but the University isn’t even close to thinking about moving. Ain’t happening.

        • Thanks for your input. But again, I’d implore you (as I have others) to actually read what was written, instead of just telling me why the Big Ten’s better and why Penn State’s never leaving. For TV deals, numbers like $40M may be thrown around, but honestly (and I addressed this in the comments the other day), there’s a cap to all this growth. Television, as a medium, isn’t really growing, and neither is cable. So for everyone to just assume we’re headed to these astronomical figures seems short-sighted. Those who’ve made a larger investment in digital programming (ACC, Pac-12) may actually end up better off.

          Academically, the ACC has already been speaking about further collaboration, and already do plenty of it now, though not under a CIC heading.

          But again, this all comes down to whether or not PSU would actually leave. As I state over and over again, that chance is at less than five-percent, and even then, I’d make it lower still. Even bringing it up is solely meant to examine what circumstances could make the ACC be more appealing than their current situation in the B1G this time around.

  3. So when Virginia announced it was leaving the ACC today, did they say when exactly they would be joining the Big 10 and whether GT or UNC was going with them? If you don’t know for sure, maybe the sleuths at Off Tackle Empire can fill us in.

    • At this point, there’s only one person to believe in realignment talk: Brett McMurphy. Anyone else is likely just pushing rumors. Off Tackle Empire’s article is completely based off rumors tossed around by Greg Swaim and The Dude on Twitter. As I’ve been saying for well over a year now, there’s a lot more to leaving a conference than just a couple extra bucks.

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